Comments on: Real Fairy Tales

By: something other than sunnymelons

something other than sunnymelons — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:39:44 +0000

I know exactly what you mean, though I had put it down to grief for the victims (and I'm anything but compassionate) and being severely creeped out, especially in the case of Dyatlov. It's actually been making me weep some nights as I try to fall asleep, and be extremely wary of taking the garbage out at night, what with the eyes watching me from the dark (Ok, maybe my version of this feeling is bordering on schizo). That, coupled with Patrick Austin's St. John's Party photoset on Flickr, just pushed me over the edge.

By: quagmire

quagmire — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:31:37 +0000

@Subspace: Nor was I implying that you were. These are just my take on those particular occurrences and, I realize now, were actually off-topic to yer post … so I apologize if they came across like a cheezy rebuttal. My comments were definitely not of the déjà important kind.
FYI/BTW: I had a dream last night about the Dyatlov Incident. It was a military experiment-gone-bad, on those poor, unsuspecting souls. Watch the skies … and your government!

By: subspace

subspace — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:22:01 +0000

I didn’t mean to say that they were totally unsolved mysteries, just that something about them struck me as more important than appeared on the surface. And even then I don’t mean that they are conspiracies or anything of the sort. It’s all just an exploration of this feeling I often have, that I’m missing something. Like seeing a Mandelbrot set.

By: quagmire

quagmire — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:43:00 +0000

Holy shit! The Kursk and especially the Dyatlov mysteries haunt me.
The other two are easier for me to assimilate as accident and happenstance.
I grew up in earthquake country and bear witness to what it takes to register a 3.5 on the Richter. If they were testing ‘dummy’ torpedoes, then nothing short of a reactor-type explosion could have produced that magnitude of resonance. Yet the investigation showed no containment breach, only a possible steam or gaseous explosion ‘incident’. There’s a pretty good docu that can be rented on the subject … though ‘non-conclusive’.
The Dyatlov incident, well that’s just fucking scary … period. Read the article the Cap’n links to.
The Payne Stewart incident is easiest for me to dismiss (goddamn, that sounded crass!). What I mean is, decompression can happen instantaneously and at the altitude they had (40,000 ft. officially on radar), the outside air (what little there is of it) is freezing. Alarms just tell the pilot something has/is happening, nothing more. Air Force experts said impairment begins in just seconds and the pilot had, at max, two minutes before he needed oxygen to function coherently. Expert opinion said they would have lost consciousness before the pilot could descend to a warmer, oxygenated level (an experienced pilot, which they had, wouldn’t just nose-dive the fucker either … stupid maneuver in this scenario). The investigation showed maintenance workers had replaced a crucial pressurization valve the day before the incident after a report was made about pressurization problems.
I think this myth is ‘busted’, for me anyway.
The poor lady with the rare brain cancer … weird, strange, unfortunate yes, but happenstance I believe. Sorry, no mystery there for me.
Gotta go spacebuddies, warning klaxons say a breach at Atmo’s docking port …