Comments on: Put Up Or Shut Up http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/ Press your spaceface close to mine Sat, 10 Dec 2011 01:19:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: halcyon http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-762 halcyon Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:23:32 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-762 Reading Mieville is like watching a mental patient hump a thesaurus. You have to just stare and shake your head. There's no accounting for taste. The best thing to do in this situation is to discretely close the door. Continued attention will only aggravate his pathology. Always here to help, Halcyon Reading Mieville is like watching a mental patient hump a thesaurus. You have to just stare and shake your head. There’s no accounting for taste.

The best thing to do in this situation is to discretely close the door. Continued attention will only aggravate his pathology.

Always here to help,
Halcyon

]]> By: Sunday http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-761 Sunday Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:37:54 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-761 Do you have a crush on me, David? Cuz you're talkin' real purdy. Do you have a crush on me, David? Cuz you’re talkin’ real purdy.

]]> By: quagmire http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-760 quagmire Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:45:54 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-760 @ David: I dunno lad, me thinks Delaney capable of writing a space opera that could drive me (roustingly) from complacency, roughly or unceremoniously ... fer Buddha's sake. @ David: I dunno lad, me thinks Delaney capable of writing a space opera that could drive me (roustingly) from complacency, roughly or unceremoniously … fer Buddha’s sake.

]]> By: David http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-758 David Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:45:18 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-758 Neal Stephenson is the most overrated author in the history of science fiction, possibly the English language. After wasting a summer reading Cryptonomicon I couldn't get rid of my autographed copy quick enough.Nor can I possibly say anything bad enough about it. As for your reaction to Perdido Street Station....well, no accounting for taste. I wouldn't trade a page of Mieville for everything Stephenson has written since Snow Crash. Btw, I arrived here via your review of Nova. That's rousing space opera, not rousting for christ's sake. For the record, I've been reading Delany since 1965. As for Sue, above, I've been reading it longer than she has and I still am. Love Peter Hamilton, but he'll never be more than a "B" list for me. Neal Stephenson is the most overrated author in the history of science fiction, possibly the English language. After wasting a summer reading Cryptonomicon I couldn’t get rid of my autographed copy quick enough.Nor can I possibly say anything bad enough about it. As for your reaction to Perdido Street Station….well, no accounting for taste. I wouldn’t trade a page of Mieville for everything Stephenson has written since Snow Crash.

Btw, I arrived here via your review of Nova. That’s rousing space opera, not rousting for christ’s sake. For the record, I’ve been reading Delany since 1965. As for Sue, above, I’ve been reading it longer than she has and I still am. Love Peter Hamilton, but he’ll never be more than a “B” list for me.

]]> By: Sue London http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-412 Sue London Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:24:32 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-412 <i>"I tried to sell a manuscript, but was told there was no market for scifi satire."</i> Well, you can pull a Scalzi and laugh all the way to the bank until you get tired of putting up the paypal button for it, then have a major publisher finally publish it WHILE IT IS STILL AVAILABLE FREE ON THE WEB. <a href="http://scalzi.com/agent/" rel="nofollow">Free Web Version</a> <a href="http://astore.amazon.com/thougthatgets-20/detail/0765317710/103-5902918-3518228" rel="nofollow">Pre-order through Amazon (available 10/28)</a> Review from <a href="http://fantasyscifibookreview.blogspot.com/2008/08/agent-to-stars-by-john-scalzi.html" rel="nofollow">Fantasy & Sci-Fi Lovin' Book Reviews</a> that tells the story (scroll past the excerpt). Seriously, no market? That's some of the only sci-fi I will go for anymore because, quite honestly, I got tired of the crap. I'm older than you so it happened longer ago for me. We've discussed this before... Some books are not to be lightly tossed aside but to be hurled with great force. (Thank you, Dorothy.) Keep at it, Sunday. I'm sure your sci-fi satire is delightful. “I tried to sell a manuscript, but was told there was no market for scifi satire.”

Well, you can pull a Scalzi and laugh all the way to the bank until you get tired of putting up the paypal button for it, then have a major publisher finally publish it WHILE IT IS STILL AVAILABLE FREE ON THE WEB.
Free Web Version
Pre-order through Amazon (available 10/28)
Review from Fantasy & Sci-Fi Lovin’ Book Reviews that tells the story (scroll past the excerpt).

Seriously, no market? That’s some of the only sci-fi I will go for anymore because, quite honestly, I got tired of the crap. I’m older than you so it happened longer ago for me. We’ve discussed this before… Some books are not to be lightly tossed aside but to be hurled with great force. (Thank you, Dorothy.)

Keep at it, Sunday. I’m sure your sci-fi satire is delightful.

]]> By: quagmire http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-410 quagmire Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:55:57 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-410 @xadrian: Actually, I think your comment is right to the point and well stated! I especially like your analogy to wine and cheese and what is going on in a person's life at the time they 'ingest' a book, music or whatever. It all has to do with what those dendrites store in our memory-hole. I still think of wonderful snowy days when I smell real vanilla. Growing up in the south, my mom would make what po' folks called snow-cream. We couldn't afford ice cream, so she'd mix fresh fallen, pristine (no yellow!) snow in a big bowl with a little cream and vanilla ... sigh @xadrian: Actually, I think your comment is right to the point and well stated! I especially like your analogy to wine and cheese and what is going on in a person’s life at the time they ‘ingest’ a book, music or whatever. It all has to do with what those dendrites store in our memory-hole. I still think of wonderful snowy days when I smell real vanilla. Growing up in the south, my mom would make what po’ folks called snow-cream. We couldn’t afford ice cream, so she’d mix fresh fallen, pristine (no yellow!) snow in a big bowl with a little cream and vanilla … sigh

]]> By: xadrian http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-409 xadrian Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:29:40 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-409 @Aaron - my apologies. Ilium was indeed enjoyable, to the extent that I wanted to draw all the characters, something I'm not normally moved to do. I only used it as an example of a book that's hard to get into. You have to admit, starting with the Professor at Troy and then the dandy humans on the NeoVictorian estate, THEN the robots on Jupiter was jarring. It literally took me three time to start it. The human parts were just too boring at first, BUT it was a rough time in my life and when I started it later (and during a better time) I was able to get through it and enjoy it. To wit, personal current situations impact your tolerance for the literature. However, I'm currently reading neuroplasticity and cortical mapping books, so what do I know? ;) @Aaron – my apologies. Ilium was indeed enjoyable, to the extent that I wanted to draw all the characters, something I’m not normally moved to do. I only used it as an example of a book that’s hard to get into. You have to admit, starting with the Professor at Troy and then the dandy humans on the NeoVictorian estate, THEN the robots on Jupiter was jarring. It literally took me three time to start it. The human parts were just too boring at first, BUT it was a rough time in my life and when I started it later (and during a better time) I was able to get through it and enjoy it. To wit, personal current situations impact your tolerance for the literature.

However, I’m currently reading neuroplasticity and cortical mapping books, so what do I know? ;)

]]> By: Aaron http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-408 Aaron Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:19:57 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-408 i didn't. in fact i said i was 'enjoying the crap out of it.' also, one of the story lines seems to have recently ended. so. i stumble no more. i didn’t. in fact i said i was ‘enjoying the crap out of it.’
also, one of the story lines seems to have recently ended.
so. i stumble no more.

]]> By: Sunday http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-407 Sunday Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:54:54 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-407 Don't you say nothin bad about Cryptonomicon on my website. Don’t you say nothin bad about Cryptonomicon on my website.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/comment-page-1/#comment-406 Aaron Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:09:24 +0000 http://www.galacticmu.com/literature/put-up-or-shut-up/#comment-406 @xadrian: you're a crazy. i found the illium/olympus line to be some of the best i've read in a long while. and yes, while there were a numerous (not disparate) story lines, they all tied together and were never hard to follow. and i certainly wouldn't call the story movement glacial. i lost many hours of precious sack time on account of that book. "just going to read to the chapter's end," i say. "going to bed soon," i'd say. and then POW 200 pages later the book would still be staring me in the face as i desperately tried to ignore the nagging glow of the alarm clock incessantly reminding me that i had to be up in an hour. i'm currently working through cryptonomicon. (and enjoying the crap out of it.) my only complaint: he keeps hopping between four different story lines, two of which take place in the past and have different characters, and two of which take place in the present and have the same characters. and he keeps swiching between the latter two with no warning. it causes me to stumble. alas. @xadrian:
you’re a crazy. i found the illium/olympus line to be some of the best i’ve read in a long while. and yes, while there were a numerous (not disparate) story lines, they all tied together and were never hard to follow. and i certainly wouldn’t call the story movement glacial. i lost many hours of precious sack time on account of that book.
“just going to read to the chapter’s end,” i say. “going to bed soon,” i’d say. and then POW 200 pages later the book would still be staring me in the face as i desperately tried to ignore the nagging glow of the alarm clock incessantly reminding me that i had to be up in an hour.
i’m currently working through cryptonomicon. (and enjoying the crap out of it.)
my only complaint: he keeps hopping between four different story lines, two of which take place in the past and have different characters, and two of which take place in the present and have the same characters. and he keeps swiching between the latter two with no warning.
it causes me to stumble.
alas.

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